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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s still too socially acceptable to be lousy with computers</title>
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		<title>By: The Name You Know</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-127070</link>
		<dc:creator>The Name You Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 11:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here’s another common mistake: typing the domain name of a site people know into the Google search box instead of the browser directly. I see lots of people waste time and energy that way. And it’s not just the people I know that do this. Many of the top search words are domains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s another common mistake: typing the domain name of a site people know into the Google search box instead of the browser directly. I see lots of people waste time and energy that way. And it’s not just the people I know that do this. Many of the top search words are domains.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126924</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a bit of humour in response to all of this there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://xkcd.com/627/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this brilliant XKCD cartoon&lt;/a&gt;. (Thanks VXL for reminding me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a bit of humour in response to all of this there&#8217;s <a href="http://xkcd.com/627/" rel="nofollow">this brilliant XKCD cartoon</a>. (Thanks VXL for reminding me).</p>
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		<title>By: Mino</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126905</link>
		<dc:creator>Mino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important thing is ones will to learn. I know older people who until their 40-50 never touched a keyboard, an now are easily using the internet or a software, and people of 30-35 who copy the link to a document on the stick and than wonder why, oh why is not working.... So is not the age, but the decision if you want or if you don&#039;t want to achieve a decent level of knowledge in using a computer.  
And by the way, being the one who fixes the &quot;aliens&quot; in my colleagues computers, I am automatically supposed to be expert in fixing fax and xerox machines. So I&#039;m getting better in that too  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important thing is ones will to learn. I know older people who until their 40-50 never touched a keyboard, an now are easily using the internet or a software, and people of 30-35 who copy the link to a document on the stick and than wonder why, oh why is not working&#8230;. So is not the age, but the decision if you want or if you don&#8217;t want to achieve a decent level of knowledge in using a computer.<br />
And by the way, being the one who fixes the &#8220;aliens&#8221; in my colleagues computers, I am automatically supposed to be expert in fixing fax and xerox machines. So I&#8217;m getting better in that too  <img src='http://www.jonworth.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: french derek</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126887</link>
		<dc:creator>french derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon said a lot of what I would have said. As a 70+ year-old I admit to being useless with the DVD recorder (can just about manage the player!). I&#039;m not so bad (really) with computing; and am an iMac fan after years of Microsoft misery. But, even so, I admit to having learned a few things from the list of &quot;alien&quot; mistakes/misunderstandings.

One of the frustrations of being a professional (of any sort) is that one encounters such &quot;rudimentary&quot; understanding of one&#039;s own profession and what it entails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon said a lot of what I would have said. As a 70+ year-old I admit to being useless with the DVD recorder (can just about manage the player!). I&#8217;m not so bad (really) with computing; and am an iMac fan after years of Microsoft misery. But, even so, I admit to having learned a few things from the list of &#8220;alien&#8221; mistakes/misunderstandings.</p>
<p>One of the frustrations of being a professional (of any sort) is that one encounters such &#8220;rudimentary&#8221; understanding of one&#8217;s own profession and what it entails.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126882</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a depressingly arrogant and patronising post, typical I&#039;m afraid of those that work in IT every day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a depressingly arrogant and patronising post, typical I&#8217;m afraid of those that work in IT every day</p>
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		<title>By: Brusselsblogger</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126881</link>
		<dc:creator>Brusselsblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I am not sure I 100% agree with you. For me most of these examples are really nice user interface challenges which are actually solved (and the user doesn&#039;t *need* to care).

Most people really don&#039;t care what is a RAM memory, hard disk oder shared drive disk which is hosted in the cloud.

On the other hand: one example that drives *me* crazy: people who are mostly editing files day in day out but don&#039;t know how to use track changes with Word or that it even exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I am not sure I 100% agree with you. For me most of these examples are really nice user interface challenges which are actually solved (and the user doesn&#8217;t *need* to care).</p>
<p>Most people really don&#8217;t care what is a RAM memory, hard disk oder shared drive disk which is hosted in the cloud.</p>
<p>On the other hand: one example that drives *me* crazy: people who are mostly editing files day in day out but don&#8217;t know how to use track changes with Word or that it even exists.</p>
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		<title>By: till</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126880</link>
		<dc:creator>till</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2010 there are still people in their 30s using spaces and new lines to draw tables in Word as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2010 there are still people in their 30s using spaces and new lines to draw tables in Word as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.jonworth.eu/its-still-too-socially-acceptable-to-be-lousy-with-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126862</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simon - how you have managed to make the leap from what I write to Murdoch and governments regulating the internet is absolutely beyond me. Perhaps it&#039;s due to laziness having not looked at what I have written over the last 4 years or so on this blog. Equally the blog runs off open source software and you&#039;re welcome to use or share whatever is here... in fact the very opposite of the sort of internet future you seem to fear.

As for the main point - no, the internet is not a place. It is a means, something akin to a pen and paper, using the internet is a skill that will become as ever prevalent as using a pen and paper, one of those things without which our society will not be able to function. People who cannot read and write get stuck in poverty, and that&#039;s why states invest in education to help people out of that situation. Use of the internet will go the same way - those who cannot use it put themselves at a severe disadvantage and that&#039;s the reason it&#039;s vital for everyone to have good net skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simon &#8211; how you have managed to make the leap from what I write to Murdoch and governments regulating the internet is absolutely beyond me. Perhaps it&#8217;s due to laziness having not looked at what I have written over the last 4 years or so on this blog. Equally the blog runs off open source software and you&#8217;re welcome to use or share whatever is here&#8230; in fact the very opposite of the sort of internet future you seem to fear.</p>
<p>As for the main point &#8211; no, the internet is not a place. It is a means, something akin to a pen and paper, using the internet is a skill that will become as ever prevalent as using a pen and paper, one of those things without which our society will not be able to function. People who cannot read and write get stuck in poverty, and that&#8217;s why states invest in education to help people out of that situation. Use of the internet will go the same way &#8211; those who cannot use it put themselves at a severe disadvantage and that&#8217;s the reason it&#8217;s vital for everyone to have good net skills.</p>
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